Well the Danish cartoons have been brought up again. I personally couldn't care less, not that they aren't offensive or anything it's just that I really don't expect anything less from the "civilized world". I mean the double standards and the amount of self righteousness and denial they use to defend free speech and their "way of life" is sooo stupid and flabbergasting. What's even dumber is the trail of idiotic closet-atheist/secular Arabs/Muslims who parrot their propaganda; thinking that parroting their colonial masters makes them civilized by association.
But what really surprised me was that the Dutch Danish* prosecutors are now prosecuting an Arab/European lobbying group ( AEL ) for publishing images that debate the true number of Jews killed in the holocaust; "because it offends Jews on the basis of their race and/or religion", while at the same time defending the initial publication of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH ) cartoons and continuing to defend its republication, do you know why ? Because a group of old white men and women, who think that the prophet (PBUH) is a terrorist pedophile ( as if he was an Evangelical or something *joke* ), think that the Danish cartoons were not offensive to Muslims in general.
The really funny thing,though, is that the AEL published a disclaimer underneath the image saying that they did not support the views of the cartoons it uses. Not only that but the head of the AEL said that they used the cartoons to "illustrate with cartoons the double morals of the West during the Danish cartoon affair." I mean the guy is tipping them not to get provoked; but racism sure is blinding.
As I said it's flabbergasting !
sources (1, 2) and hattip to music lover for sharing the the first source ;).
* Thanks to the the anonymous in the third comment for pointing out the typo.
Wednesday, September 2, 2009
Selective Free Speech ?????
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Salam PH,
How ridiculous and an absolute waste of time. What amazes me through all of this disgust is that people still find the need and/time to publish such rubbish. I agree with you on the ridiculousness of it all.
Some wonder why our young are disrespectful, arrogant, out of control troublemakers----well, this would be a fine example of why they are.
Hope all is well with you and your family, inshallah.
"What amazes me through all of this disgust is that people still find the need and/time to publish such rubbish."
Politics, elections are coming up everywhere and scoring points against immigrants is a recurring theme especially with the financial crises abroad.
"Some wonder why our young are disrespectful, arrogant, out of control troublemakers----well, this would be a fine example of why they are."
Couldn't have said it better ;).
"Hope all is well with you and your family, inshallah."
Alhamd illah all is cool and smooth.
salaam
It's not Danish authorities, it's Dutch authorities. There are different laws governing free speech in different countries, and a court in the Netherlands is not bound by what happens in Denmark.
"It's not Danish authorities, it's Dutch authorities."
Thanks for pointing out my mistake/typo.
"There are different laws governing free speech in different countries, and a court in the Netherlands is not bound by what happens in Denmark."
Yes that is true and irrelevant; because the Danish cartoons were republished in the Netherlands by :
1- Elsevier magazine.
2- De Volkskrant.
3- NRC Handelsblad.
4- Het Parool.
5- Trouw.
6- De Telegraaf.
Not to mention that the Dutch politician Geert Wilders recently republished them on his website.
The Dutch prosecutors didn't prosecute any of the aforementioned and has not, to the best of my knowledge, prosecuted anyone for offending Muslims, through the media, not even people like Wilder who have gone out of their way to offend Muslims everywhere, so isn't that hypocritical and contradictory in your view ?
That's not to mention that for a bunch of countries who go around sticking their noses in other countries business under the pretext of teaching them civility and free speech ( among other things ) you'd think that they'd hold themselves up to a higher standard, no ?
What is the legal reasoning for the Dutch court ruling? It is obvious that the two cases are different from their point of view. Maybe the AEL should have tried publishing cartoons that make fun of Moses or Jesus. I doubt the Dutch would object to that would they? Maybe the Dutch consider satire of Mohamed (or Moses, etc.) is different from insulting all Muslims or Jews? Also it is one thing to object to a law and a different thing to object to a court ruling. The court is supposed to apply the law, it does not make the law.
That\\\'s not to mention that for a bunch of countries who go around sticking their noses in other countries business under the pretext of teaching them civility and free speech ( among other things ) you\\\'d think that they\\\'d hold themselves up to a higher standard, no ?
Maybe they should... but their holding themselves to a higher standard won\\\'t solve the \\\"victim\\\" culture\\\'s basic problems like lack of civility and free speech, will it? Your attention is misplaced as expected from any apologist. Tens of millions of people living a continuous nightmare for tens of centuries is no accident and no fault of the Dutch or any foreign devil. Try whining a little closer to home for a change, it will make you look more credible and less helpless. And tell your fellow victims.
Actually, the thing is that cartoons about Mohammed, Jesus etc are fine, and fall under free speech.
(The reasons for the original printing of the Mohammed cartoons were anything but simply exercising free speech though; they were meant to provoke; the same newspaper had rejected Jesus cartoons at an earlier point.)
But in post WW2 Europe there's several countries in which it is illegal to downplay the Holocaust, so the cartoons you mentioned fall under that.
Which, free speech or no, I don't really object to, but seeing the growing anti-Islamism in Europe, maybe we should add a few related laws.
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